Kate talks with Butch Witkowski

Under­ground bases and tun­nels.
Butch Witkowski. His back­ground is Law Enforce­ment retired, and he applies that back­ground and foren­sics in every case inves­ti­gated. Butch is the Direc­tor of the UFO RESEARCH CENTER OF PENNSYLVANIA and the are com­prised of ex Law Enforce­ment, Bio Chemists, Pri­vate Detec­tives, Fraud Inves­ti­ga­tors, Para­nor­mal Experts, Cryp­to­zo­ol­o­gists and a host of other experts that search for the truth.

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